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Tracye's avatar

I can't imagine a more effective way to prevent discussion of male violence than a school district and mainstream media conspiring to insist that a violent boy be referred to as a girl. I'm still shaking over seeing the brave girl who testified about this matter having to make an effort to shed the inaccurate pronouns she was forced to use at school.

CNN-PA's avatar

I know. These poor kids know it isn't right yet they are being forced to lie. There is a PA bill that states neither students, parents, or teachers should have to use wrong sex pronouns or names or be reprimanded if they refuse to. I wonder if it will ever make it out of committee.

The school is going to hold a forum. I hope everyone is able to ask questions.

https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/southeastern-pa/safe-schools-forum-to-be-held-in-may-steps-being-taken-to-contract-with-3rd/article_5aeff242-03e1-11ef-8869-d7d1ff643af7.html

Tracye's avatar

I found a bill about civil liability for pronoun use -- is it HB 2158?

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billInfo/billInfo.cfm?sYear=2023&sInd=0&body=H&type=B&bn=2158

I could spend the rest of my life trying to figure out how we got here. Imagine thinking that someone *should* face civil liability for using accurate pronouns about another person.

CNN-PA's avatar

Yes I think so. There is a package of four bills that were introduced at the same time. I will try to find them.

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According to a press release issued by the bills’ sponsors, the package of bills addresses concerns surrounding compelled speech and ensures that individuals retain the right to express their First Amendment right to free speech without facing civil penalties.

The state representatives who authored the legislation are Reps. Robert Leadbeter (R-Columbia), Rob Kauffman (R-Franklin) and Joe D’Orsie (R-Manchester).

A bill introduced by D’Orsie [HB 2155] would prohibit school districts across the commonwealth from disciplining any teacher who refuses to use a child’s preferred pronouns, if the teacher acts with an “absence of malice.” It’s been referred to the Education Committee.

A bill introduced by Leadbeter [HB 2156] would grant civil immunity (no damages in civil court) to any parent who refuses to use pronouns that match their child’s gender identity or refuses to consent to gender-affirmation care for their child. It’s been referred to the Judiciary Committee.

Another bill introduced by Leadbeter [HB 2157] would prevent a judge hearing a child-custody dispute from considering a parent’s refusal to use pronouns that match their child’s gender identity or the parent’s refusal to consent to gender-affirmation care for their child. It’s been referred to the Judiciary Committee.

A bill introduced by Kauffman [HB-2158] would grant civil immunity (no damages in civil court) to any individual who refuses to use another person’s preferred pronouns. It’s been referred to the Judiciary Committee.

Melissa in Philly's avatar

Historians will look at this as a time of madness comparable to the 1930s. How did populations go so collectively insane?

Tracye's avatar

I'm still trying to figure it out. I think the starting point was when doctors (and others, but I the most remarkable group is doctors) accepted and promoted the idea that there is such a thing as a "transgender" person. Once it is accepted that this is a real type of person, it's easy to get people on board with creating accommodations. It's a scary thing for MSNBC-watching normies to admit that all of mainstream medicine (and education, the media, government, etc.) has become so corrupt. If they admit that boys can't be girls, then they have to reject everything from the American Association of Pediatrics to the WHO. It's even scary for me. I would like for there to be some major institutions I can still trust.

Melissa in Philly's avatar

It's not a bug, it's a feature. It always was.